NEU Motor F3A-1 and CA Model Pass-Port

Submitted by Steve Hannah

 

This is the Neu F3A-1 motor and Hyde mount that I installed in my Passport.
I got my Passport from Chip at the NSRCA District 7 Championships in
Bakersfield CA.  I had just mid aired my e-Pinnacle and Chip happened to
have one of his unfinished Passports with him for sale.  Lucky for me,
there was a silver lining to my miserable day.

I followed his advice and obtained a Neu F3A motor.  I had to wait a few
weeks for it and kept calling Steve Neu to find out when it was ready.  When
they had the motors in the shop I drove down to his location and picked it
up.  I sent the motor to Merle Hyde to fabricate a soft mount for it.  Here
are some details about the motor, the installation and the Passport itself.

The motor is a bit different than some earlier versions. Primarily, this
version does not have a removeable prop shaft/bolt which allowed greasing
access from the front. Instead, it has a more standard gearbox which must be
taken apart and lubed, like the Hacker C50. The motor is a Neu
1513/2y/6.7/HD. The last few digits correspond to the heavy duty 6.7:1
gearbox. I am not sure what the 1513/2Y nomenclature implies but it is clearly the size of the motor. 
One  picture shows the finned housing with integrated fan and gearbox. Pictured is the weight, as
advertised on the Neu website it is 515gms. You can see how the gearbox is
attached in the next shot (motor is dusty, sorry about that. It really shows
up in the flash and zoom). The gearbox is removed with 4 4mm bolts.
Likewise, the motor is secured to the motor mount with 4 4mm bolts. 

The biggest issue is with the prop attachment. Notice that the prop shaft is
an 8mm smooth shaft. An adapter must be used to attach the prop.  

The motor mount is the typical Hyde motor mount as used on the Hacker C50's
but modified for the size of the Neu. The tail ring has been modified to be
wider so it will better grip the motor fins. The motor mount weighs 45g. The
tail ring is somewhere between 10 and 15. I must state that my scale isn't a
deadly accurate piece of laboratory equipment. It's probably lucky to be +/-
5gms. 

The gear box is removed for lube maintenance by loosening 4 screws.  I
removed them then I just simply took the thing apart. It came apart very
easily, no prying or wrangling around. You can see the planetary gear setup.
I couldn't take it apart any further because I didn't have a c-clip pliers
set that would fit properly and I didn't want to hack it up. It is easy
enough to clean and lube the gears. 

I am including some shots of how I installed it into my Passport. I tried to
show a step by step of how I made the firewall and tail ring mount and. 

First, I taped the motor assembly with mount pieces into place using the
spinner backplate. I marked the location of the front mount. Then I used a
heavy piece of solder and made a rough formed template. 

Next, I traced that onto a piece of Depron and cut that out.
To find the motor center point I inserted the prop shaft and
spinner through the front and made a mark. I cut the Depron former and got
it close. Next I transferred the Depron former shape onto a piece of balsa
that was about the same thickness as my carbon/rohacell sandwich plate I was
using for the front firewall. You only get one shot at cutting that
expensive stuff so I decided to make the balsa dummy just to be sure. 

Next I cut out the Carbon/Rohacell plate and tacked it in place with CA.
Then I aeropoxied it in place. To keep everything square I taped the motor
and spinner assembly in place to hold it flush with the front (which already
has proper thrust offset in place). 

Next I made some rear plates to hold the tail ring in place. Same kind of
process as for the firewall. Then I cut out the final ones from carbon/nomex
plate and aeropoxied them in place. 

I finished by making a FR4 ring for the front to act as a backplate for the
nuts and did a similar thing on the tail ring mounts. 

I balanced it where Todd Blose had indicated.  I'll put a picture from Todd
in here when I dig it up.  It shows the back of the battery pack extends
just beyond the gear plate. 

My flights on the Passport have been great.  I set it up per Todd's
recommendations on his build page.  Everything was pretty much "right on".
I am still in process of final trimming it but it really flies nicely.  It
tracks well, maintains a very consistent speed, rolls effortlessly, and does
very nice snaps.  I am trying to get a handle on the spins as I seem to be
over feeding the rudder or something and it's orientation is a bit odd.
I'll have to work on that.   

Here's my setup:
Neu F3A-1 motor
Castle HV85 ESC
PolyRC 5350 packs
Thunderpower 910mah rx batt
Jaccio 6v regulator w/switch
Futaba 608 FASST rx
Futaba BLS451 servos on Ailerons (1 each wing)
Futaba 9650 servos on elevator (1 each stab)
Futaba 9650 servos on rudder (1 each side, split rudder)
CA Model Carbon Spinner
APC 20.5x14 prop
MK wheels
MK tailwheel
CA Model/Hyde control horns
MK and NMP linkages 

My weight right now is about 5030g.  I can easily get below 5000 with a few
changes like going to a 700mah battery pack (or thereabouts), going with the
stock wheels which are much lighter than my MK's, and I may shave off 30g by
going with the AXI prop adapter which is all aluminum vs. the steel collet
on the Neu.
Steve Hannah

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