NEU Motor F3A-1 and CA Model Pass-Port
Submitted by Steve Hannah
This is the Neu F3A-1 motor and Hyde mount that I installed in my Passport. I got my Passport from Chip at the NSRCA District 7 Championships in Bakersfield CA. I had just mid aired my e-Pinnacle and Chip happened to have one of his unfinished Passports with him for sale. Lucky for me, there was a silver lining to my miserable day.
I followed his advice and obtained a Neu F3A motor. I had to wait a few weeks for it and kept calling Steve Neu to find out when it was ready. When they had the motors in the shop I drove down to his location and picked it up. I sent the motor to Merle Hyde to fabricate a soft mount for it. Here are some details about the motor, the installation and the Passport itself. The motor is a bit different than some earlier versions. Primarily, this version does not have a removeable prop shaft/bolt which allowed greasing access from the front. Instead, it has a more standard gearbox which must be taken apart and lubed, like the Hacker C50. The motor is a Neu 1513/2y/6.7/HD. The last few digits correspond to the heavy duty 6.7:1 gearbox. I am not sure what the 1513/2Y nomenclature implies but it is clearly the size of the motor.
One picture shows the finned housing with integrated fan and gearbox. Pictured is the weight, as advertised on the Neu website it is 515gms. You can see how the gearbox is attached in the next shot (motor is dusty, sorry about that. It really shows up in the flash and zoom). The gearbox is removed with 4 4mm bolts. Likewise, the motor is secured to the motor mount with 4 4mm bolts. The biggest issue is with the prop attachment. Notice that the prop shaft is an 8mm smooth shaft. An adapter must be used to attach the prop. The motor mount is the typical Hyde motor mount as used on the Hacker C50's but modified for the size of the Neu. The tail ring has been modified to be wider so it will better grip the motor fins. The motor mount weighs 45g. The tail ring is somewhere between 10 and 15. I must state that my scale isn't a deadly accurate piece of laboratory equipment. It's probably lucky to be +/- 5gms. The gear box is removed for lube maintenance by loosening 4 screws. I removed them then I just simply took the thing apart. It came apart very easily, no prying or wrangling around. You can see the planetary gear setup. I couldn't take it apart any further because I didn't have a c-clip pliers set that would fit properly and I didn't want to hack it up. It is easy enough to clean and lube the gears. I am including some shots of how I installed it into my Passport. I tried to show a step by step of how I made the firewall and tail ring mount and.
First, I taped the motor assembly with mount pieces into place using the spinner backplate. I marked the location of the front mount. Then I used a heavy piece of solder and made a rough formed template. Next, I traced that onto a piece of Depron and cut that out.
To find the motor center point I inserted the prop shaft and spinner through the front and made a mark. I cut the Depron former and got it close. Next I transferred the Depron former shape onto a piece of balsa that was about the same thickness as my carbon/rohacell sandwich plate I was using for the front firewall. You only get one shot at cutting that expensive stuff so I decided to make the balsa dummy just to be sure. Next I cut out the Carbon/Rohacell plate and tacked it in place with CA. Then I aeropoxied it in place. To keep everything square I taped the motor and spinner assembly in place to hold it flush with the front (which already has proper thrust offset in place). Next I made some rear plates to hold the tail ring in place. Same kind of process as for the firewall. Then I cut out the final ones from carbon/nomex plate and aeropoxied them in place. I finished by making a FR4 ring for the front to act as a backplate for the nuts and did a similar thing on the tail ring mounts. I balanced it where Todd Blose had indicated. I'll put a picture from Todd in here when I dig it up. It shows the back of the battery pack extends just beyond the gear plate. My flights on the Passport have been great. I set it up per Todd's recommendations on his build page. Everything was pretty much "right on". I am still in process of final trimming it but it really flies nicely. It tracks well, maintains a very consistent speed, rolls effortlessly, and does very nice snaps. I am trying to get a handle on the spins as I seem to be over feeding the rudder or something and it's orientation is a bit odd. I'll have to work on that. Here's my setup: Neu F3A-1 motor Castle HV85 ESC PolyRC 5350 packs Thunderpower 910mah rx batt Jaccio 6v regulator w/switch Futaba 608 FASST rx Futaba BLS451 servos on Ailerons (1 each wing) Futaba 9650 servos on elevator (1 each stab) Futaba 9650 servos on rudder (1 each side, split rudder) CA Model Carbon Spinner APC 20.5x14 prop MK wheels MK tailwheel CA Model/Hyde control horns MK and NMP linkages My weight right now is about 5030g. I can easily get below 5000 with a few changes like going to a 700mah battery pack (or thereabouts), going with the stock wheels which are much lighter than my MK's, and I may shave off 30g by going with the AXI prop adapter which is all aluminum vs. the steel collet on the Neu.
Steve Hannah